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Recently discovered page on advanced hidden blade design by Leonardo da Vinci's decendant Chris "Ammnra" Myles....

ooooor a little fun in Photoshop and SolidWorks.

I'm not planning on making more of or selling this prop.
I'm not planning on posting further how to's, instructions, guides, etc...
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tomytieneblas74 Featured By Owner May 16, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Looks complex. ..
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lightning-in-my-hand Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
i would like you to join the assassins, mister Myles.  You would be a very valuable ally.
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JackDeFerrari Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
What's the black part on the locking mechanism? Is it a spring? And what do the two ''arms'' Beside tho other part of the mechanism? If someone could answer my question I would be very thankful.
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colbmista Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2013
a spring obv
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:iconjackdeferrari:
JackDeFerrari Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Thanks, but what are the two "sticks" across from it?
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Kiba-Kurokage Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2013
Those are the blade locks I think, when the blade it forward, it sticks behind the fins to prevent the blade from sliding back in, and the other locks behind the fin when it is fully retracted, preventing the blade from falling out.  Look up OTF switchblades to get a better idea how this stuff works.  ^^;
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colbmista Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2013
i am guessing a guide area for the string
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Saploerex Featured By Owner Jun 12, 2013
'I'm not planning on posting further how to's, instructions, guides, etc...'
Well, that's perfectly alright because with these schematics I can probably make my own.
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Killianc97 Featured By Owner May 4, 2013
Once me and my friend figure this out in great detail I will post an Autocad drawing that is fully dimensioned
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NoahNotorious Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
If you're willing to take the time to learn on your own you'll find making these would be pretty simple
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NoahNotorious Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
If anybody wants to know how to make this, all the mechanisms are made like a OTF switchblade knife, just a bit more complicated
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Makimoto-Jin Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2013  Student Digital Artist
I don't think you are NOT da Vinci's decedent.
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tobi2500 Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Y u no release Blueprints?
I really want to make these.
i'm not sure if this is the actual mechanism you use but,
Plz tell us how you made them.
if i ever do a youtube vid orshow it to people i will credit you by name
but plz release the blueprints
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HhHasdjopajd Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2012
excuse me.one little question:can u tell me exactly how does one blade locks into the other and how does the lock opens when u want to close the blade?

:)
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:iconcolbmista:
colbmista Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2013
use the ring and the spring thats in the locking mech part if you bothered to look at the diagram
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gian29 Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012
donde carajo se puede comprar una en argentina santafe rosario
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AhseemR Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2012
I have been wondering if any one here knows if the 3 center segments ( the blade and holders) are connected or separate as the OTF system engages it when extended, because on his youtube videos, from what I can tell, It appears to be a single blade just thicker near the base. I would really like to know because I have started making this out of metal.
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Karnifexis Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2012
great ammnra!, great mechanic work *-* can you please, share to me a 3d sketch up vesion of this please ='D
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Xsqueezit Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Thank you very much, I am sure you went out of your way by sharing this... I know what I am going to be decoding during the next school week.

I love how there are no specifications and it is left pure and simple. So it still leaves the fun of discovery to the deeply interested without spoiling the whole thing, because the real fun of a hidden blade is the mysterious mechanism behind it.
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absoundwav3 Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2012
ok never mind my last post i figured out how it locks when extended but can anyone help with how the blade locks within the sleeve when retracted?
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Kiba-Kurokage Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2013
As far as I can tell, it's the two arms.  One locks behind the fins when deployed, and the other locks on the other side of the fins when retracted.
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absoundwav3 Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2012
i dont understand the two stage blade very well. everything else in this design seems really simple to me but i cant wrap my head around the locking mechanism for the blade when it extends out of the sleeve
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Scyphir Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Are you even answering any questions about this? I believe I've figured it all out, except how to get the blade to retract from the sheath once it's extended.
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Nazo-The-Unsolvable Featured By Owner May 6, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
[link]

Just thought I'd let you know that people have found out how you made it and are replicating it's design. Though, even I understand it, I wouldn't go claiming it's mine or post it without your permission... Just thought it'd be nice to let you know it's not a secret anymore lol.
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solopach Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2013
The video has been removed, I've made DA/SA automatic knives before but I can't seem to wrap my head around the two-stage mechanism. I guess I'm just dense.
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Nazo-The-Unsolvable Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
There's a little clip that pops out when the blade extends. It's magnetic or it's spring-like and held back by a bar on the inside top of the case. So when it retracts, the force of the parts falling, that clip will hit the bar on the inside and release the blade back into the inner case. The inner case is locked by latches on the inside under part of the outer case. Which are activated by pulling on the string for the scotch yoke to turn. I's quite genius. I've made a 2 stage hidden blade out of wood, which is posted on here, but it's nowhere near the genius level design of this.
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Manicies Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
...I don't suppose anyone's made a tutorial of this, have they...?
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FireNemisis13 Featured By Owner Sep 9, 2014  Student General Artist
imdeepainreborn did: www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWYnWY…
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Nazo-The-Unsolvable Featured By Owner Apr 24, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
It's actually quite simple when you look and study this page for a bit, though they're incredibly expensive to make since you kinda NEED a 3D printer to do it. Metal would be a lot harder.
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Manicies Featured By Owner Apr 24, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yes, I do understand that it would be expensive.

My only problem is that I can't seem to understand how turning the ratchet makes the blade come out...perhaps if I continued to study it, that would make sense.
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Kiba-Kurokage Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2013
The little ratchet rotates 180 degrees when you pull the thread because of a knot tied in it.  It catches the lip when pulled and doesn't disturb the wheel when the string is released.  The tiny little stick and triangle next to it is a lock just to ensure the wheel doesn't rotate back.  On the underside is a peg that fits into the groove on the bottom of the flat metal plate below the cover and above the blade lock arms, and the spring.  When retracted, the peg is towards the bottom, when the string is pulled, it rotates the wheel 180 degrees, pulling the peg more to the top.  This pulls the plate to the top as well, and extends the spring.  Once the plate pushes the blade lock out of the way, it lets the spring retract, and brings the blade with it, extending, or retracting it.  Hopefully this helps a bit.  ^^
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Heyzuse Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2014
I understand the purpose of the wheel lock qnd the function of the scotch yoke. Yet how does the lock on the wheel unlock? Based on the diagram it looks like the lock prevents the wheel from turning another 180 degrees clockwise to push the slide in the opposite direction. Would be able to shed some light on this?
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Heyzuse Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2014
Nevermind, I looked at a couple of others designs and realized that the latch is stationary next to the wheel. It acts as an anti-reversal latch similar to those found in the gearbox of airsoft guns.
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Manicies Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you very much for the explanation, though as it has been quite a considerable amount of time since I posted the comment, I have since performed the adequate research and do now understand it on my own. Thanks for going to the effort though!
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Kiba-Kurokage Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2013
Just found it here like yesterday myself.  Sorry for being late.  ^^;
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Manicies Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
That's fine xD
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Nazo-The-Unsolvable Featured By Owner Apr 24, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
There's a spring/pulley system. Refer to the second from the top blueprint. The one with the ring and the string. Notice the string has a larger end than what is attached to the ring. That part that will track on the pulley and fling the blade outwards. It's a two-way pulley. Once it's pulley, it spins to unlock it. The second pull will hit it the same way, but reversed, however, the pulley will spin the same way, but the other side of the 'gear' is backwards, which hits the lock again to fling it in reverse to retract it. The overall build if it is indeed simple, the only thing that gets me is how both tiers lock in place. My gravity hidden blade is one long blade with only the lethal area sharpened. I would love to make a double extension hidden blade, but how to do a dual locking system on one ring and one string is the part that confuses me. If only I had his mind...
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Manicies Featured By Owner Apr 24, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Ehm...are you sure? That's just a spring on the end of the string so that you can pull it easily....
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Nazo-The-Unsolvable Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Now that you mention it... There are knots in the string that could perhaps activate the pulley. I think you may be right about that part. Interesting.

Yes. Since you said that I'm very sure of it now. That most certainly is a spring for the END of the string to be pulled. The knots in the string are what turn the pulley. Nice observation. :) I kinda missed the obvious there lol.
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Manicies Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
xDDD

I understand everything up until the ratchet is turned. I just find it difficult to understand how the ratchet turning makes the blade come out...although I'm getting closer to that to
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Nazo-The-Unsolvable Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Looking at it in photoshop zoomed in tells me that black bar-looking part, in the 3 segment's parts above the last blade blueprint, is actually a spring. Something must knock it to activate the push and pull-back of the blade, perhaps this helps in your decipher?
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elitedark Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2012  Professional Artisan Crafter
good work is very nice, Dear god man! What I wouldn’t give to get my hands amen
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falloutking1000 Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
hey i know this is alot to ask but do you think you can make a under view of the codex???
its really hard to make a copy when you cant see the underside.

thank you for the awesomeness i hope to be as good as you one day.
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twistedtraceur Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2012
could you send a 3d codex of these plz

my email:shen-vision@hotmail.com
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fisher467 Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2012
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fisher467 Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2012
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suezox05 Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Hello there, could you share the raw file of your AC hidden blade design? It will greatly help me 'coz I'm planning to do a cosplay of ezio... Thanks in advance. . .

Here's my email : eugene_m_andrade@yahoo.com
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